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it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold is 250,000 to 400,000 are these people that are going to vote on it. nobody else really cares. all they really care is that you get a deal. these people are sitting at ground zero. these snores, these liberals. i'm a liberal. i don't care what the thereby hold is. i don't give a damn if it's a million. i just want them to get a deal or go over the cliff, but somebody just make up your mind up on capitol hill. that's what the american people would like to hear. here's the bottom line. even if they do get a deal at 450,000 or 500,000 or whatever that number is, barack obama
it's that president obama has retreated on his hard line on taxes. obama may think his conciliatory approach has helped avoid economic chaos. instead, he is courting it." i want to go right to jimmy williams because you have been a senate staffer. you understand how this thing works. why would the white house even bother to increase from 250,000 to 400,000. they don't really have to. they're winning this fives fight. >> the only people that actually care whether or not the threshold...
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. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> reporter: president obama called for immediate action but there was no vote in the senate. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: minority leader mitch mcconnell called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing a direct role. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act soon, drastic spending cuts will go into effect and taxes go up for everyone. the tax impact for the average american family, more than $3,400. senate leaders continued to work on the stop gap bill. but sticking points remain. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides. but negotiations continue. >> reporter
. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> reporter: president obama called for immediate action but there was no vote in the senate. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> reporter: minority leader mitch mcconnell...
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and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted from domestic demand over $600 billion. that is about four percentage points in gdp. most economists were forecasting in the first half of next year hardly 2 percent growth. if you subtract 4% to spending from that year and a recession that is much deeper. the cbo tense and not be alarmist because they say what they are partisan, but congress read it paycheck, and they don't want to say congress is being irresponsible and thrusting the economy into the next great depression. gerri: then know whether paycheck comes from. did you know that congress, the vice-president, the pr
and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted...
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from now on they will be the obama middle class tax cuts. do you believe that? >> well, don't forget the obama signed extension of these very tax cuts two years ago and said you don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. we estimate a million small businesses will see their taxes go up. i can't find a single maul business owner that says if you raise my taxes i will hire more people. we should talk about growth and opportunity. there are three strikes against the plan as i see it. it will raise taxes. possibly put off any spending cuts. david: you're not answering the question. do you think the president, as a political tactic wants to go off the fiscal cliff so he can come in as a tax cutter? >> oh, i think he does. he wants more revenue. whether he wants to cut those taxes when he is done. when you're running 1.3 trillion dollar deficits you got to have more revenue if you're going to shrink that deficit. liz: gentlemen, why is it okay if george bush wanted to cut taxes and not if president obama wants to cut taxes? at a certain point nobody loves taxes.
from now on they will be the obama middle class tax cuts. do you believe that? >> well, don't forget the obama signed extension of these very tax cuts two years ago and said you don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. we estimate a million small businesses will see their taxes go up. i can't find a single maul business owner that says if you raise my taxes i will hire more people. we should talk about growth and opportunity. there are three strikes against the plan as i see it. it...
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won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the question is, are they really going to want to do what they did last time with the debt ceiling, which ultimately caused us to have a downgrade of our economy. do they want to do that again? i think it is a bit of bluffing. i don't think they really want to do that. in terms of the president winning, he has won, though he will catch a lot of grief as byron alluded to from the left for, if he goes up to 400,000, for example, they think he should stick at 250 and don't want any kind of social security cuts and that is on the table apparently in t
won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the...
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. >> what president obama says about raising taxes. >> i am just listening to the consensus among people who know the economy best. and what they will say is that if you either increase taxes or significantly lower spending when the economies remain some what fragile it would have a de simulated effect and potentially you see a lot of folks losing business, more folks potentially losing jobs that would be a mistake when the economy has not fully taken off. >>> with me is wall street journal senior economics writer receive moore. has the president changed his mind? >> i love that quote that you have shown. i think it was almost exactly two years ago when the president said that. he said the economy was too fragile for a tax increase. the economy is more fragile now than it was two years ago. if the president were to make an announcement tonight and be a real statesman we are at a deadlock here, we can't reach an agreement, i am going to agree for the good of the country and good of the economy to extend the tax cuts for everybody for 6 months until we get this resolved we wouldn't be talk
. >> what president obama says about raising taxes. >> i am just listening to the consensus among people who know the economy best. and what they will say is that if you either increase taxes or significantly lower spending when the economies remain some what fragile it would have a de simulated effect and potentially you see a lot of folks losing business, more folks potentially losing jobs that would be a mistake when the economy has not fully taken off. >>> with me is...
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remember all of this, the tax piece, the sequestration and don't forget obama care taxes, all of those were things signed by the president. clearly he wanted this scenario, or he wouldn't have signed those pieces of legislation. >> i would like to push a bit more on bill's previous question about tax hikes. because if i'm not wrong and do correct me if i'm wrong, you have said before that you would not vote for the elimination of a tax cut for those making over 45 450k. that is what's on the table now. would you change your mind on that? >> i'm not going to fore close any possibility until i see what is really offered. but let's be honest. from the face of it, it looks like raises taxes in order to spend more money and get us into a deeper hole than we've been in already. this president is going to be sworn in for his second term in a couple of weeks. you guys are going to cover that. the national debt at that point will be over $16 trillion. when the next president is sworn in, that national debt will be over $22 trillion. there's your problem, ladies and gentlemen. that is our proble
remember all of this, the tax piece, the sequestration and don't forget obama care taxes, all of those were things signed by the president. clearly he wanted this scenario, or he wouldn't have signed those pieces of legislation. >> i would like to push a bit more on bill's previous question about tax hikes. because if i'm not wrong and do correct me if i'm wrong, you have said before that you would not vote for the elimination of a tax cut for those making over 45 450k. that is what's on...
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health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole coast is devastated. >> the number of ambulances to move these children is remarkable. >> and lost homes in many forms-- ♪ ♪ >> andrew breitbart died this morning, he was 43. he was a publisher, an activist and a commentator, but that says almost nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like humans. it was never about people, it was always, always about principles. . >> the u.s. has just evacuated all personnel from benghazi to tripoli. >> this was something that was a concerted effort,
health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime...
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>> will we know is that harry reid will likely reap introduced president obama's campaign season plan which would extend the tax cuts to americans making less than $250,000 a year but raise taxes on the wealthier americans. this is something republicans have turned down time and time again. >> maryland could lose hundreds of millions of dollars if we do go off the fiscal cliff. kim dacey is live with have the gridlock in washington is affecting us in maryland. >> we have a lot of people employed by the federal nt.ernment that rely o many are watching the negotiations closely. lawmakers cannot reach a budget deal, some say maryland could shoulder a greater burden than some other states. a report that estimates of just how that affect would be. maryland would lose $117.6 million in federal funding next year. the state would have to reallocate spending and make cuts. >> perhaps raising thresholds for individuals receiving aid. it would be a challenge. >> 53,000 jobs would be lost in 2013, it is estimated. that number could be higher. the state will lose about $268 million in 2013. >> the
>> will we know is that harry reid will likely reap introduced president obama's campaign season plan which would extend the tax cuts to americans making less than $250,000 a year but raise taxes on the wealthier americans. this is something republicans have turned down time and time again. >> maryland could lose hundreds of millions of dollars if we do go off the fiscal cliff. kim dacey is live with have the gridlock in washington is affecting us in maryland. >> we have a lot...
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that's what you'd expect to come from president obama. but we're also -- we sort of said tonight is the deadline and that's true because a lot of the tax cuts expire at midnight. the sense we're getting from a lot of sources and from members of congress is that perhaps tonight isn't a hard and fast deadline. mitch mcconnell and the vice president are negotiating in earnest to find a deal. but it's sort of difficult to see how exactly that may come to be by midnight and have votes in the senate and house. the thought is that going over the cliff gives cover for some democrats and certainly some republicans. there will be a lot more pressure after the cliff comes to be to put a solution in place. even after midnight were to come and go, we would see them wo working towards an agreement, e we would expect. >> politicking around a cliff that was always meant to be sort of the suicide that would never be. john avalon said, congress is raising to diffuse a time bomb that congress wired. >> reporter: that's true. the thing is, and we will contin
that's what you'd expect to come from president obama. but we're also -- we sort of said tonight is the deadline and that's true because a lot of the tax cuts expire at midnight. the sense we're getting from a lot of sources and from members of congress is that perhaps tonight isn't a hard and fast deadline. mitch mcconnell and the vice president are negotiating in earnest to find a deal. but it's sort of difficult to see how exactly that may come to be by midnight and have votes in the senate...
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social security taxes going up tomorrow. obama care taxes going up tomorrow. if you get a bounce to the market, will it last? >> i don't think it will. i think it will be very short lived. i think people will come in and sell the bounce, stuart. then they will look at the details and the details won't look good and this market may take a very big hit because of that. it will be short lived as far as i'm concerned. stuart: i'm picking up on very big hit, key words. what do you mean by that, larry levin? >> the market could -- we saw the market overnight in the s&ps trade down to 1380. i think 1350 is the next spot after that. that's another 50 points below where we're trading in the s&ps alone stuart. that's the kind of big hit i'm talking about. stuart: that would be a big hit. larry levin, thank you very much. happy new year to you. >> happy new year to you. stuart: let's bring in the author of how rich people think. steve, the rich voted not in overwhelming numbers but they certainly gave many of their votes to president obama in the last election. now, the
social security taxes going up tomorrow. obama care taxes going up tomorrow. if you get a bounce to the market, will it last? >> i don't think it will. i think it will be very short lived. i think people will come in and sell the bounce, stuart. then they will look at the details and the details won't look good and this market may take a very big hit because of that. it will be short lived as far as i'm concerned. stuart: i'm picking up on very big hit, key words. what do you mean by...
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polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans fit into this? i'll remind you and the audience the republicans got re-elected to the majority. they are listening to their constituency as well. the real question is where can we meet in the middle where democrats have a little pain and democrats have a little pain and in the process you have a great compromise and true bipartisanship? >> and we were just talking about this, admiral, with congresswoman lee. i mean, there is this idea that we have just enough that maybe will get done today or tomorrow or in the next week or so, but essentially this is kicking the can down the road. there are still th
polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans...
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do it as a straight tax reduction. those who resisted it a week ago tax hike on the rich can argue it's not a hike, the hike already happened. but that is the only way to pre-empt obama extending all of this and making the republicans, fall guys for a hike in middle class taxes. >> bret: we're assuming it is past the senate. you have senators who have all expressed major concerns. >> you just know three most liberal senators, it's absurd, it should be million. >> you know anybody can stand up in the senate to cause the problems. >> but a lot of people are unfair and unrealistic and the president moved a lot. the fact he has moved up off of the $250,000 when he has given in on the tax cuts before. i think that the republicans are being extremely unreasonable. none of this adds up. >> bret: we'll talk more about this. we also have an 8:00 p.m. show tonight, believe it or not. we have more to talk about. keep it here. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. whi
do it as a straight tax reduction. those who resisted it a week ago tax hike on the rich can argue it's not a hike, the hike already happened. but that is the only way to pre-empt obama extending all of this and making the republicans, fall guys for a hike in middle class taxes. >> bret: we're assuming it is past the senate. you have senators who have all expressed major concerns. >> you just know three most liberal senators, it's absurd, it should be million. >> you know...
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estate tax to 40% for estates over $5 million p.m. and rise in dividend rates. can they resolve the disagreement offer spending cuts? democrats are resisting. they want a longer perhaps one-year delay and president obama was trying to rally those disappointed democrats with remarks that he just made by citing gains that he had won in terms of energy and education tax breaks he supported in the past and vowing to seek more revenue later on when we get to the discussion of entitlement cuts or what republicans believe is safer ground. saw some tweets saying he is trying to gum up the works. but there is the way the to and fro negotiation of president obama making sure his own troops are in line if he makes a deal. >> absolutely. talking to and fro, when president obama was speaking and saying a fiscal cliff deal was in sight, we saw the dow spike back above the 13,000 market pch pairing those gains a little bit as we speak. still below the 13k mark right now. we will watch this as we continue to get headlines. let's talk to aimian who is also falling a minute by mi
estate tax to 40% for estates over $5 million p.m. and rise in dividend rates. can they resolve the disagreement offer spending cuts? democrats are resisting. they want a longer perhaps one-year delay and president obama was trying to rally those disappointed democrats with remarks that he just made by citing gains that he had won in terms of energy and education tax breaks he supported in the past and vowing to seek more revenue later on when we get to the discussion of entitlement cuts or...
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some people say, raise taxes even more. so that is the pushback that officials are giving to that republican criticism. having said that, they remain optimistic moderately so at this point that something will get done. and of course, president obama sort of continuing his public campaign to pressure congress, not only republicans, but also, democrats who have expressed skepticism about this deal and not getting enough in new revenues. the president saying, look, this is not a perfect deal, not grand bargain, the big deal they had initially hoping for and working on but it is a deal nonetheless and will prevent at least part of the fiscal cliff set to go in to effect in a matter of hours now. >> mike, we talk a lot here about the sequester, the income tax rates for the wealthy and other issues that need to be resolved or one on the table. one that's not on the table, the payroll tax extension is just gone. unemployment insurance extension looks like it's part of this. and medicare dock fix. you have any sense of two other th
some people say, raise taxes even more. so that is the pushback that officials are giving to that republican criticism. having said that, they remain optimistic moderately so at this point that something will get done. and of course, president obama sort of continuing his public campaign to pressure congress, not only republicans, but also, democrats who have expressed skepticism about this deal and not getting enough in new revenues. the president saying, look, this is not a perfect deal, not...
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before and obama and boehner couldn't agree on. if that's now decided and they're talking about all the other stuff, that's a really good sign and substantial progress is being made and could be the reason for the president's optimism. >> this clock is ticking on the cliff and ticking on us, too. david, i have to leave it right there. david goodfriend and molly ball, good to see you both. and happy new year to you. >> thanks. >>> next, the latest on secretary hillary clinton's condition after she's hospitalized for a blood clot weeks after suffering a concussion. >>> also, regardless of what happens today in the negotiations, there's one thing for sure. this congress is going to go down as the least productive in modern times. those details just ahead. >>> you can join our conversation on twitter. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart h
before and obama and boehner couldn't agree on. if that's now decided and they're talking about all the other stuff, that's a really good sign and substantial progress is being made and could be the reason for the president's optimism. >> this clock is ticking on the cliff and ticking on us, too. david, i have to leave it right there. david goodfriend and molly ball, good to see you both. and happy new year to you. >> thanks. >>> next, the latest on secretary hillary...
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. >> i think it is obvious president obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> president obama blamed republicans. >> they say the biggest priority is making sure they deal with the deficit in a significant way. they are behaving in a way that they're only priority is that the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. blacks mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. -- >> mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. >> can the senate veteran help congress tumble to a deal on the last day? >> if we do go off the fiscal cliff, congress would be more likely to make a deal. members could claim they are cutting taxes. >> thank you. if america does fall off the fiscal cliff on the first of the year, maryland would be hit hard. hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs lost. >> we have a lot of federal workers and businesses that rely on the federal government. many are watching the negotiations closely. if partisan politics prevail and they cannot reach a deal, americans in maryland will burden will -- will be burdened. legislativent of observances had a report about
. >> i think it is obvious president obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> president obama blamed republicans. >> they say the biggest priority is making sure they deal with the deficit in a significant way. they are behaving in a way that they're only priority is that the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. blacks mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. -- >> mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. >> can the senate veteran help congress...
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senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and president obama said today a deal was close. but late in the day house leaders announced they will not vote on a deal tonight. they're waiting for the senate. so what happens now? we have two reports beginning with nancy cordes on capitol hill. nancy, good evening. >> good evening to you, rebecca. it looks like the deadline pressure finally prompted a meeting of the minds today. negotiators agreed to a plan that extends the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans. but they are hung up on one key spending issue, and so it looks like we will go over the fiscal cliff at least temporarily. >> we're very, very close to an agreement. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said his round-the-clock negotiations with vice president biden had paid off. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax -- the tax -- issues. >> reporter: first and foremost, the bush era tax cuts. the two sides agreed to extend them permanently for all household income under $400,000 a year for individuals, $450,000 a year for f
senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and president obama said today a deal was close. but late in the day house leaders announced they will not vote on a deal tonight. they're waiting for the senate. so what happens now? we have two reports beginning with nancy cordes on capitol hill. nancy, good evening. >> good evening to you, rebecca. it looks like the deadline pressure finally prompted a meeting of the minds today. negotiators agreed to a plan that extends the bush era tax cuts...
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president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start w
president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the...
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president obama campaigned in 2008 to keep 98% of the households with those tax cuts that were unaffordable. the republicans, 100% with the tax cuts that are unaffordable. the basic fact is, neither party is getting to the core of the matter, which is that we don't have the revenues needed to run the federal government. nobody is specifying the cuts that would make it possible because those cuts can't be made to the revenues that were set in the bush era. and this is the basic problem. it's been phony for a decade now. >> ed rendell. >> first of all, on the short term, the president did offer chain cpi, which is something his base hates. so he has put something on the table that was significant. now, could he deliver that with his base? >> didn't reid say it's not on the table? >> yes. >> every bipartisan proposal does include those changes. >> understand what we're talking about is a short-term deal. dr. sachs is right, we have to get to simpson-bowles -- and michael is right -- we have to get to the framework of simpson-bowles to really solve the debt crisis. we haven't even taken a shot
president obama campaigned in 2008 to keep 98% of the households with those tax cuts that were unaffordable. the republicans, 100% with the tax cuts that are unaffordable. the basic fact is, neither party is getting to the core of the matter, which is that we don't have the revenues needed to run the federal government. nobody is specifying the cuts that would make it possible because those cuts can't be made to the revenues that were set in the bush era. and this is the basic problem. it's...
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he's going to get the tax threshold that he wants from republicans, and instead of giving them the cuts he had already promised boehner in the talks before, upwards of $1 trillion in social security and medicare, he can come back around and do that during the debt limit negotiations so he's essentially going to win out. remains to be seen whether or not that holds true and whether or not we get to your broader point, the country wants to go through another one of these in just a few months. >> luke russert, thank you. mike viqueira, kristin welker. help new year. >> happy new year. >>> when we come back, the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. we just learned doctors found that blood clot in the space between her brain and the skull, behind her right ear. doctors say it did not result in a stroke but nbc news' robert bazell will be here with us. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. r
he's going to get the tax threshold that he wants from republicans, and instead of giving them the cuts he had already promised boehner in the talks before, upwards of $1 trillion in social security and medicare, he can come back around and do that during the debt limit negotiations so he's essentially going to win out. remains to be seen whether or not that holds true and whether or not we get to your broader point, the country wants to go through another one of these in just a few months....
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>> well, the level at which taxes will rise above where they are right now, so obama's insistence has been, if you make over $250,000 a year, on the income over 250 you pay a little more in the new rates he's proposing. now, he's been willing -- it's been reported that he's gone as high as 400,000 in the negotiations with boehner. so that's a place for agreement. the other place is the estate tax. the estate tax is scheduled to rise by quite a bit at the stroke of midnight tomorrow night. republicans want to keep it low, democrats want it to go up a little bit. there's room for compromise there. and so, you know, it's not just marginal rates that are going up, there's a series of taxes that they're going to change. the thing that could not be settled today was this change cpi. essentially a benefit cut for social security recipients. that led to a breakdown in negotiations today, because republicans wanted those benefit cuts to social security. and democrats said no way. and that was the sticking point and that's when this thing moved from the senate over to biden and mcconnell where
>> well, the level at which taxes will rise above where they are right now, so obama's insistence has been, if you make over $250,000 a year, on the income over 250 you pay a little more in the new rates he's proposing. now, he's been willing -- it's been reported that he's gone as high as 400,000 in the negotiations with boehner. so that's a place for agreement. the other place is the estate tax. the estate tax is scheduled to rise by quite a bit at the stroke of midnight tomorrow night....
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so to president obama, congratulations on your tax rate increase. you fought hard and you won. i hope i have the courage of my convictions not to raise the debt ceiling until you and others will work with me to find a plan to begin to get us out of debt. so you mentioned medicare today in your speech. i'm glad you did. in 2024, it completely becomes insolvent. think of how many people in this country need medicare and will need it 20 years from now. if we don't do something, it's going to run out of money. the age of eligibility for medicare recipients is 65. it hasn't changed one day since 1965 when it was first started. we're all living longer. i propose we adjust the retirement age to 67 over a 10 or 20-year period. that will save the program in many ways. people in my income level, we shouldn't get any money from the government to help buy my prescription drugs. i should pay the full cost because i can afford to. that's called means testing. and this c.p.i. thing you hear a lot about, that's how you evaluate benefits. it needs to be re-evaluated based on real inflation. we'
so to president obama, congratulations on your tax rate increase. you fought hard and you won. i hope i have the courage of my convictions not to raise the debt ceiling until you and others will work with me to find a plan to begin to get us out of debt. so you mentioned medicare today in your speech. i'm glad you did. in 2024, it completely becomes insolvent. think of how many people in this country need medicare and will need it 20 years from now. if we don't do something, it's going to run...
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look, taxes are probably going to go up on the rich because president obama did -- you know, he went around the country saying if he was re-elected, that's what he would do. but, you know, as i told you many times, even if we don't get a deal here in the next 24 hours, this is not thelma and louise. this is a slope, not a cliff that's going to cause a crash in the economy. i do think it looks bad for the country. it's beneath us to go into this new year not knowing what the tax code is going to look like, what kind of spending cuts will go in. this is politics at its very lowest. >> let's talk about a week ago one of the things that you and i both thought shall i thought it was a bit cynical that john boehner would put forward this plan "b." it sort of showed a lack of faith in his negotiations with the president but he put forward a plan that would increase taxes on those earning a million dollars or more per year and grover norquist to whom everybody has signed this pledge, this never increase taxes pledge, actually looked it over and said, that's all right. i can live with that. s
look, taxes are probably going to go up on the rich because president obama did -- you know, he went around the country saying if he was re-elected, that's what he would do. but, you know, as i told you many times, even if we don't get a deal here in the next 24 hours, this is not thelma and louise. this is a slope, not a cliff that's going to cause a crash in the economy. i do think it looks bad for the country. it's beneath us to go into this new year not knowing what the tax code is going to...
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why is obama caving on taxes? the article reads in part, the erosion signals not only a major substantive problem in its own right but also raises disturbing questions about obama's ability to handle his entire second-term agenda. do republicans sense a little weakness here, an opportunity? could the president's concession hurt his ability later on to negotiate with the gop? >> no. i think he is doing what needs to be done. unfortunately, this president hasn't operated or led this country like keith's former boss, president clinton, who understood the art of negotiation and actually getting there and rolling up his sleeves and having discussions well before everyone's back is against the wall. i can't believe i'm saying it but i am encouraged to see joe bide nen there and talking with mitch mcconnell. it is good to have the negotiations. they need to in her reference it's better to have them as fred as tear and ginger rogers dancing and discussing issues back and forth as opposed to what we have with thelma and lo
why is obama caving on taxes? the article reads in part, the erosion signals not only a major substantive problem in its own right but also raises disturbing questions about obama's ability to handle his entire second-term agenda. do republicans sense a little weakness here, an opportunity? could the president's concession hurt his ability later on to negotiate with the gop? >> no. i think he is doing what needs to be done. unfortunately, this president hasn't operated or led this country...
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tax hikes and spending cuts. president obama said to speak in about 30 minutes from now. shibani: stocks are holding their ground. waiting for some sort of news out of washington. the dow sitting at session highs. at least we are closing. ashley: it changes with every headline. the world ringing in the new year. new zealand, australia, japan, china, we will get a sneak preview of celebrations being planned as times square gets prepared for 1 million visitors. it is a complete nightmare. [ laughter ] ashley: time now for stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. we are up 51 points. not too bad on this last trading day of the year. >> that is right. the dow has been pretty flat. going back and forth between the red and green. the nasdaq is up 30. same goes for the s&p stock of about nine points. we are also watching a settlement between u.s. regulators and about a dozen banks. sources tell the "new york times" that 14 banks include tank of america, wells fargo and jpmorgan chase. we are taking a look at those stocks. back to you. ashley: diane, thank you very much. well, the q
tax hikes and spending cuts. president obama said to speak in about 30 minutes from now. shibani: stocks are holding their ground. waiting for some sort of news out of washington. the dow sitting at session highs. at least we are closing. ashley: it changes with every headline. the world ringing in the new year. new zealand, australia, japan, china, we will get a sneak preview of celebrations being planned as times square gets prepared for 1 million visitors. it is a complete nightmare. [...
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president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >> okay. >> all right? and now that we're down to the hard work of actually trimming some of the waste out of the federal government, nobody wants to do that. and so, we're in trouble because we have a set of elite career politicians that
president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to...
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speaker, the fiscal cliff is more than just the tax increases that president obama so dearly wants. the effect of the s.g.r. formula means that physicians who treat medicare patients will be forced to limit the number of seniors that they see, fewer patients being seen, doctors forced not to see patients because of foolish washington policy. this jeopardizes health care for millions of folks. the sustainable growth rate, the formula used by medicare to determine physician reimbursement, needs to be repealed. it doesn't work for patients and it doesn't work for doctors. and it's destructive to the very principles that we hold dear about health care. it violates accessibility. it violates quality, and it limits choices, it harms real people. now, there are positive solutions that we're working on so we may responseably reform this broken system, but while we work to put in place a system that actually makes sense, we must provide certainty for patients and their doctors for the new year. . slashing payments to doctors is a terrible idea and it must be stopped. the s.g.r. needs to be p
speaker, the fiscal cliff is more than just the tax increases that president obama so dearly wants. the effect of the s.g.r. formula means that physicians who treat medicare patients will be forced to limit the number of seniors that they see, fewer patients being seen, doctors forced not to see patients because of foolish washington policy. this jeopardizes health care for millions of folks. the sustainable growth rate, the formula used by medicare to determine physician reimbursement, needs...
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remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax and the increases in cap gains. it's a very damaging tax increase that may well be taking effect. >> it's a very difficult position. the members of the gop that have signed your pledge now find themselves in. because either they break the pledge now, which is what appears to be happening, and they acquiesced to these higher tax rates, or we go over the fiscal cliff, or the taxes go higher, and effectively, the democrats could steal your clothes, your political clothes. they could then talk about cutting taxes from those elevated levels. we assume we'll talk about the obama tax cuts and the bush tax cuts, will long since have died. that's a very difficult situation for your guys. >> well, it would be, except the taxpayer protection pledge is not made to me, it's made to the american
remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax and the increases in cap gains. it's a very damaging tax increase that may well be taking effect. >> it's a very difficult position. the members of the gop that have signed your pledge now...
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do not have to vote for a tax increase. it happens with or without you. you do not have to vote for a tax increase in that way. obama has something to worry about here, by the way. the republicans could even lose the next election because of this. he will have to live with this in the history books. dagen: reelection or legacy? great to speak with you, david. happy new year. tom kloza is coming up next. we had record gas prices this year. the average price we paid this year was a new record. will it be even higher in 2013? the top-selling car in 2012 was the ford focus. kind of little. if you are celebrating, finding that cab ride home after the party is going to cost you some coin. we are talking about limo service. i have used it. it is kind of nice. take a look at the treasury markets. the bond market closes today, early at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. that is what the federal government can do, it can borrow money at that. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him twongs -- cook w
do not have to vote for a tax increase. it happens with or without you. you do not have to vote for a tax increase in that way. obama has something to worry about here, by the way. the republicans could even lose the next election because of this. he will have to live with this in the history books. dagen: reelection or legacy? great to speak with you, david. happy new year. tom kloza is coming up next. we had record gas prices this year. the average price we paid this year was a new record....
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i hope republicans will fight as hard on the debt ceiling as barack obama did on tax rate. uma: you call everything going on in washington right now dysfunctional. the american people are kwaeutinwaiting to see what is going to happen here. many people are frustrated and upset that once again we are at the 11th hour trying to get a deal done at a time when there was a lot of time before this to work something out. >> because the senate doesn't function any more. the house has passed three or four bills to avoid sequestration, to save the military from these cuts, to deal with the fiscal cliff. if you don't like the house's product bring it on the floor of the senate and let's change it. let's start being legislators instead of just a place where ideas go and die in the united states senate, it's embarrassing to me being the most deliberative body in the world and not be able to have a debate about how the fiscal cliff drama should end. we should have had the house bill on the floor months ago. harry reid blocks everything coming from the house, this place is completely dysf
i hope republicans will fight as hard on the debt ceiling as barack obama did on tax rate. uma: you call everything going on in washington right now dysfunctional. the american people are kwaeutinwaiting to see what is going to happen here. many people are frustrated and upset that once again we are at the 11th hour trying to get a deal done at a time when there was a lot of time before this to work something out. >> because the senate doesn't function any more. the house has passed three...
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president obama says the u.s. markets and economy will suffer if congress fails to act. and here is what the major players had to say at least publicly this weekend. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would continue to tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. >> the sticking point appears to be a willingness, and interest or frankly, the courage to close the deal. >> i will say this. i think that the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith. it's just that we are apart on some pretty big issues. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell, who you just heard from there, is trying to enlist vice president joe biden in the fiscal cliff talks. in the absence of a deal, senator reid is prepared to hold a bill on the president's backup plan. and as all of this goes back and forth, here is how markets are faring ahead of the open today. futures show the do
president obama says the u.s. markets and economy will suffer if congress fails to act. and here is what the major players had to say at least publicly this weekend. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would continue to tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. >> the sticking point appears to be a willingness, and interest or...
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the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> if a deal is not reached by midnight tonight, taxes go up for nine out of ten americans and 2 million people without jobs will not get unemployment insurance starting tomorrow. sharp cuts in defense spending and programs will kick in onnian 2nd. >>> even if lawmakers cannot strike a deal, there will not be panic in the dairy aisle. there is a deal in place to make sure that milk prices do not skyrocket. cnbc's hampton pearson is live with more. >> how are you doing, erika. picking up on what you were talking about, congress may be having trouble avoiding the fiscal cliff. but they might be able to skirt the dairy cliff. the u.s. farm bill could keep milk prices from surging next year. it would keep a subsidy from coming back to life when the current farm bill expires today. under a 1949 law, the usda would be forced to buy milk at prices well above what farmers are getting now as the subsidies provide. that could push prices up to twice the national average
the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> if a deal is not reached by midnight tonight, taxes go up for nine out of ten americans and 2 million people without jobs will not get unemployment insurance starting tomorrow. sharp cuts in defense spending and programs will kick in onnian 2nd. >>> even if lawmakers cannot strike a deal, there will not be panic in the dairy aisle. there is a deal in...
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now, president obama, taking real will a tough line on that issue of taxes, it's the big sticking point, has been all along and past negotiations, of course president obama has been criticized by democrats who say that he's given in too quickly on the issue of taxes. of course he campaigned on the issue of raising taxes on wealthier americans. so this time he's not backing down. so these negotiations have really been centered, to some extent, on that issue of taxes. the president really using his bully pulpit to try to pressure congress, congressional republicans, making a number of public appearances, include, of course, during that exclusive interview on "meet the press" today when he said that republicans are to blame for this fiscal cliff stalemate. chris? >> kristin welker, thanks to you and thanks to nbc's kelly o'donnell on the hill as well. more ahead this hour as we continue to cover the ongoing negotiations on the hill. why a small deal now would set up a big fight later. more on secretary of state hillary clinton who has been hospitalize tonight with a blood clot. msnbc's liv
now, president obama, taking real will a tough line on that issue of taxes, it's the big sticking point, has been all along and past negotiations, of course president obama has been criticized by democrats who say that he's given in too quickly on the issue of taxes. of course he campaigned on the issue of raising taxes on wealthier americans. so this time he's not backing down. so these negotiations have really been centered, to some extent, on that issue of taxes. the president really using...
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president obama originally wanted the tax cuts extended only four families making over $250,000 a year. as both sides make difficult concessions, the two sides appear to be inching closer to a deal. whether they can close a deal by midnight remains a question. >> want everybody to know that i'm willing to get this done. i need a dance partner. >> if there is an ultimate compromise, there will be parts of it that i find it disgusting and reprehensible. if lawmakers did not reach a deal by midnight tonight. you will likely not see a big change in their next paycheck. a lot of businesses use 2012 withholding rates. if you want to check out how much this fiscal cliff falloff will affect your next pay check, had to this web site. half a bill to legalize same sex marriage in illinois could come before state lawmakers in springfield as soon as this week. a white house spokesman tells the chicago sun-times, president obama is urging lawmakers to approve the "religious freedom and marriage fairness act". the spokesman says if the president were still in the legislature, he would support a measu
president obama originally wanted the tax cuts extended only four families making over $250,000 a year. as both sides make difficult concessions, the two sides appear to be inching closer to a deal. whether they can close a deal by midnight remains a question. >> want everybody to know that i'm willing to get this done. i need a dance partner. >> if there is an ultimate compromise, there will be parts of it that i find it disgusting and reprehensible. if lawmakers did not reach a...
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. >> president obama is not the bad guy. you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the president's press conference and whether you thought it was a bad idea. but when angela was talking, susan, you were shaking your head when she said that the american people are behind the president. >> well, i think right now the american people are frustrated with washington, and that's where that's going to come down. yes, the president is better than the worst guy. boehner is the worst guy and the president is better than that, but that's not the standard you want to meet. you want to have a standard of we respect our government and we're going forward. so that'
. >> president obama is not the bad guy. you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the...
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. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also raise the estate tax. in addition unemployment benefits would be extended for one year. otherwise some 2 million americans face the end of their benefits beginning in january. on the senate floor shortly before midafternoon minority leader mcconnell confirmed that the stalemate on taxes appeared to be over. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax the tax issues. we are very very close. as the president just said the most important piece the piece that has to be done now is preventing the tax hikes. >> reporter: there was no a greenlt what to do about across-the-board spending c
. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also raise...
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is that just president obama sort of being rhetorical or is there unhappiness from yourself or some of your colleagues with the possibility that we may be looking at going from $250,000 to $400,000 in terms of whose taxes will get raised and whose won't? do you feel like he's represented house democrats' interests enough? >> well, chris, as the president played out in that clip you played, he proposed a so-called grand bargain that would include up to $1.2 trillion in revenue combined with $1.2 trillion in additional cuts. and as he said, that would have required democrats to make some very, very tough decisions, some decisions that democrats probably wouldn't like to make unless they were amended. but the overall point he was making was that he put that balanced proposal on the table, and speaker boehner walked away from that because he didn't think he could sell that kind of balanced plan to his own caucus. and we know from the fact that his own plan "b" that simply asked people making more than $1 million a year to put in a little bit more, the fact that that couldn't get republican
is that just president obama sort of being rhetorical or is there unhappiness from yourself or some of your colleagues with the possibility that we may be looking at going from $250,000 to $400,000 in terms of whose taxes will get raised and whose won't? do you feel like he's represented house democrats' interests enough? >> well, chris, as the president played out in that clip you played, he proposed a so-called grand bargain that would include up to $1.2 trillion in revenue combined...
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the payroll tax holiday enacted under president obama will expire. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and several tax deductions will also expire. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill with the latest on the negotiations. what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. there's been progress and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the senate will get back network. when they do they won't have a lot of time to come up with a deal to avoid those spending cuts and tax increase. both sides are still divided but just before calling it quits yesterday democratic leader harry reid said he hoped to have an announcement in the morning when senate gets back network. where are they divided inspecifically divided at what salary taxes should increase but there was progress in terms of tax increases for the wealthiest of americans, also avoiding the inheritance tax increases and democrats say that they are grateful republicans have given up a demand for cuts to social security at least for now. now this progress has not come easy. democrats have accused republicans of bei
the payroll tax holiday enacted under president obama will expire. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and several tax deductions will also expire. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill with the latest on the negotiations. what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. there's been progress and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the senate will get back network. when they do they won't have a lot of time to come up with a deal to avoid those spending cuts and tax increase. both sides are still...
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. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount, rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also raise the estate tax. in addition, unemployment benefits would be extended for one year. otherwise some 2 million americans face the end of their benefits beginning in january. on the senate floor shortly before midafternoon, minority leader mcconnell confirmed that the stalemate on taxes appeared to be over. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax, the tax issues. we are very, very close. as the president just said, the most important piece, the piece that has to be done now is preventing the tax hikes. >> reporter: there was no a greenlt what to do about across-the-board spe
. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount, rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also...
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then we go back to the situation -- recalling the bush tax cuts. if i am correct and i know i am, president bush was our republican. president bush was involved for eight consecutive years. he created the debt that was left for president obama to deal with. so for republicans to throw their hands up in the air to say they have no claim to any portion of this debt is completely ridiculous. host: ok. sure. caller: i am unemployed. i have been unemployed for the last several months. i am a financial controller by trade. it is extremely difficult to find employment. i would truly appreciate for something to be settled today to it least give me my additional benefits i was originally granted but now is continued until the 29. host: thank you for joining us unsell -- thank you for joining us from california. the house republican whip sent out a memo earlier this afternoon saying that we do expect to have a series of votes later this afternoon. "today's schedule remains very fluid. members are advised to remain close to the capitol. please stay as flexibl
then we go back to the situation -- recalling the bush tax cuts. if i am correct and i know i am, president bush was our republican. president bush was involved for eight consecutive years. he created the debt that was left for president obama to deal with. so for republicans to throw their hands up in the air to say they have no claim to any portion of this debt is completely ridiculous. host: ok. sure. caller: i am unemployed. i have been unemployed for the last several months. i am a...
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obama and house speaker john boehner hit a wall. it the deal extend the bush tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. there are no spending cuts in this deal. the democrats said they already agreed to cuts in last year's debt ceiling hike. but republicans will go ballistic over no spending cuts. there is one year of extended unemployment benefits in this deal. that was a red line for some democrats who say it's good for the country and fair for the many people who still can't find work. it doesn't raise enough revenue or cut spending enough to stop the sequestration. in the words of the critics they will have to kick the can down the road. this will be a hard sell for republicans who say the country has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. president obama is hoping the midnight deadline puts pressure on them. >> date appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we are hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's n
obama and house speaker john boehner hit a wall. it the deal extend the bush tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. there are no spending cuts in this deal. the democrats said they already agreed to cuts in last year's debt ceiling hike. but republicans will go ballistic over no spending cuts. there is one year of extended unemployment benefits in this deal. that was a red line for some democrats who say it's good for the country and fair for the many people who still can't...
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president obama is now scheduled to make a statement about the negotiations. that's going to take place about 1:30 or so, in less than 30 minutes. we'll bring it to you live at the white house as soon as it happens. we want to talk about what is going on behind the scenes. you have negotiations led by the vice president and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources are telling us they are making some progress, but here's the catch. if a deal is reached, there is no guarantee it's going to pass. here's what democratic senator tom harkin said on the senate floor earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class. the real middle class. those that are making 30,000, 50,000, 60,000, 70,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. and as i see this thing developing, quite frankly, as i've said before, no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's he shaping up. >> we cover it from all angles. we have dana bash on capitol hill and jessic
president obama is now scheduled to make a statement about the negotiations. that's going to take place about 1:30 or so, in less than 30 minutes. we'll bring it to you live at the white house as soon as it happens. we want to talk about what is going on behind the scenes. you have negotiations led by the vice president and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources are telling us they are making some progress, but here's the catch. if a deal is reached, there is no guarantee it's going to...
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increases that obama care has that begins over the next decade. in addition to -- >> their net -- their net reducers to the deficit over ten years. let me ask you this last question. >> the tax increases that affect people's decisions. >> will you be around and do you expect to be reached out to as a deal is reached to give it a blessing? >> certainly i'm working with all of the fols trying to defend taxpayers here in congress in the house and senate. the leadership of the house have all made the commitment in writing their constituents to oppose all efforts to raise taxes. i don't think you will see something that actually raises taxes, we may get some tax cuts now and have to fight for others later. watch for the leverage that the republicans have in debt ceiling and the continued resolutions. that allows us to come back and actually fight for spending cuts, but also for further tax reductions. >> grover, good to see you, thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> on the mainstream media. >> the establishment. >> establishment media
increases that obama care has that begins over the next decade. in addition to -- >> their net -- their net reducers to the deficit over ten years. let me ask you this last question. >> the tax increases that affect people's decisions. >> will you be around and do you expect to be reached out to as a deal is reached to give it a blessing? >> certainly i'm working with all of the fols trying to defend taxpayers here in congress in the house and senate. the leadership of...